Category: Bully Threats


We were just recently tipped off to a Twitter conversation between Jane Litte and a group of authors who took offense to readers’ reactions to Veronica Roth’s final installment of the Divergent trilogy.  Apparently, there are fans so unhappy with the outcome of the story, they have taken to leaving threats of violence upon Veronica’s person.

In the conversation, Jane defends these readers and their threats of violence by calling them “passionate”.  Jane is of the mind that since there are so many threats being passed around the web lately anyway, making a big deal about this is “hyperbolic”.  (Her argument.  Not ours.)  But as Andrew Shaffer points out, if these kinds of threats were directed at Jane or her readers, she would be shrieking foul play from the rooftops.  After all, wasn’t it Jane who said that STGRB “put her readers in danger” because we published screenshots of their despicable behavior and stated our disapproval of it?  Ooh, that’s horrible isn’t it?  That’s worse than telling someone you want to punch them in the throat or cut them up, huh?  *sarcasm*  Jane also seems to think that because Veronica is making money off her readers, they have a right to threaten her.

Unbelievable, isn’t it?  But really, this is just Jane being herself.  This is who she is.

I’ll tell you something.  My brother has his own landscaping business and if any of his clients threatened physical harm on him, he not only would NOT provide landscaping services for them, he would probably also report their threat(s) to the police.  Just because you are making money doing something does not give clients or customers the right to threaten physical harm on you.  And making a big deal of this IS NOT “hyperbolic”.

What’s amazing is that this is what the bullies really believe.  Threatening an author is acceptable behavior according to these people.  No wonder TinaNicole and the others who threatened Lauren Pippa thought they had a right to do it.  This is their mindset.

To see what we’re talking about, all you have to do is read the following Twitter conversation.  It’s the perfect example of Jane showing her true colors.  Dan Krokos eventually got so disgusted with her, he ended up blocking her.  Fair play to Dan!

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We were going to put this as an addendum to our post, Author Hatred Growing at an Alarming Rate, but instead we thought we’d write about it in a separate post altogether.  After sharing our views regarding the extreme hatred directed toward authors for the books they write, we were tipped off to a story about outright violence against one:

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The article our blog reader mentions above is about an author who suffered violent attacks against her person because of a book she wrote:

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Then, it goes on to say:

The local New Port Richey Patch also published an article about these incidents on April 2nd, and another news update today shows escalating forms of violence including a plastic bottle chemical bomb that exploded in her front yard on the evening of April 15th. Interestingly, this ‘bombing’ happened just a few hours after the Boston Marathon attacks had begun to fill media headlines. Kyrja’s stepdaughter Heather inhaled fumes from the explosion and is under medical treatment for damage to her respiratory tract.

Local police are currently investigating these incidents. Kyrja is offering a $200 reward for any information about the perpetrators of the shootings and the chemical bottle explosion. Tips leading to the arrest and conviction of whoever is behind the incidents can be emailed to Kyrja at friendsofrupert@yahoo.com and the police department can be called at (727) 841-4550. You can visit her Facebook Page to send along messages of support, or visit her book fan website at www.friends-of-rupert.webs.com.

Her Pagan children’s book, “Rupert’s Tales: The Wheel of the Year” follows the adventures of Rupert the Rabbit who discovers the different Pagan holidays. A short biography of Ms. Withers’ spiritual journey from a devout Roman Catholic to a practicing Pagan, and her inspiration for writing “Rupert Tales”, was featured in a 2011 Tampa Bay Times article.

Please stay tuned to PNC Florida and The Wild Hunt for developing updates to this story. Our thoughts and prayers are with Ms. Withers, her family, her neighbors and community.

This is frightening — to write a book and then be physically attacked for it.  Hatred is a poison, indeed.

This isn’t an isolated incident either.  Here’s another similar story shared with us by Goronwy:

I don’t know if you’ve read that something similar happened to Charlaine Harris:

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A group of readers formed the “Annie Wilkes Brigade” and threatened the life of Charlaine Harris, author of Sookie Stackhouse, promising to destroy her and her career:

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In a comment on our last post, Karig describes this kind of behavior perfectly:

Well, we have the phrases “road rage” and “nerd rage”; I guess in this case “book rage” would be appropriate for “‘That’s All’ Ash” above.

Carroll also has some apt descriptors for it:

Book-rage, reader-rage, review-rage, all would aptly apply. I still call it hate though.

Above, Karig is talking about That’s All Ash’s review that we featured on our previous post.  In it, she takes out her anger from reading the author’s book on the author herself.  Something that should never be done and yet happens all the time on GR.  In the past, we’ve given numerous examples of hatred directed toward authors because of harmless books they’ve written.  For example, in our post Bully Wank, we shared a few reviews that show just how unhinged readers can get over books:

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Here’s one from our post, Bully Attacks This Week:

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And here, we show Mahala threatening an author, saying she has a loaded gun:

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But our classic example of author hatred can be shown quite concisely in our post, Authors, I Will Destroy You, where crazy Ridley threatens to “destroy” any author that approaches her:

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There are many, many more examples.  Too many to put into one blog post and unlike what the bullies believe, this kind of hatred toward people who write books is not harmless.  We strongly beg to differ on that opinion.  It’s not only unhealthy, it’s dangerous and potentially lethal.  This book rage — this is the kind of hatred that leads to stalking and violence, violence like the kind directed toward authors such as Charlaine Harris and Kyrja Withers.  This hatred runs rampant on GR and it’s irresponsible of Amazon to let it continue.  If they don’t put a check on it sooner or later, it’s only a matter of time before an author is killed.

The following is a post that we published on July 26, 2012, of Ridley whining about her review getting hidden.  In her original GR post, she even admits to considering authors to be “fair game”.  The post ends with some real examples of bullying.  Unfortunately for Ridley or anyone else who considers authors fair game, this is no longer allowed on GR (according to their rules) and is not allowed online in general according to the police who busted Amanda Welling for death threats against an author.

So, next time you think someone is “fair game”, bullies, think again.

As for our readers, enjoy the post!

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Remember Ridley?  Well, Stitch just informed us of something he found on Goodreads Follies.  We don’t agree with everything GF says but we do like their commentary on the bullies and this one we just couldn’t pass up:

We went in search of other snark-worthy events on GR tonight and found this juicy tidbit. GR reviewer Ridley apparently posted a non-review of “The Vampire of Vigil’s Sorrow” by Cassandra Duffy, only to find out shortly thereafter that GR had chosen to “hide” the review. (Note that if you are on Ridley’s friends list you might be able to see the original review here. Our link above is to someone else’s quote of it.)

When we read this, we headed over to this link and took a few screenshots to show you.  Here is Ridley’s original question:

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Followed by Patrick Brown’s response (notice he says her review was hidden because it is “not a review of the book, but rather of the author”):

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So she says:

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And:

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And this one stunned us.  She says here that she thinks authors should be “fair game”:

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So, it seems as thought Patrick Brown does understand that author reviews are not book reviews.  This is a step in the right direction.  So, then, tell us Mr. Brown, have you hid these reviews yet?  Because we flagged them!

We find it strange that we bought these bully reviews to light – the ones Patrick Brown is referring to – and yet we end up being the bad guys for showing it to the public.  How does that work exactly?  Please, tell us, because we really want to know.  Because we think it’s a bunch of bullshit!

We are the ones who originally brought everyone’s attention to reviews that are not book reviews but actually defamatory author reviews and somehow we get vilified.  And somehow, according to the reputation-ruiners out there, we are not actually who we say we are but instead are secretly authors who are disgruntled about bad reviews, so we started a website to retaliate against those who wronged us.

What a load of horse manure!  We are bloggers and readers who are FED UP with the behavior of these people and want it to STOP!  We brought everyone’s attention to this problem because something needed to be done!

What blows our minds is that some people say that what the bullies do isn’t bullying, even when we have provided examples of it and screenshots to prove it.  Like this:

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An 8th grade teacher and a 20-something grown man saying this to a 14-year-old girl is bullying!  We consider that to be bullying!

And this too:

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This is the example we gave of The Holy Terror and Ridley destroying an author’s career for their own personal fun because Ridley thinks that they should be “fair game.”  Authors depend on their income to survive and feed their families and these people try to destroy that either for fun or for vengeance.  We even had an anonymous author tell us that she couldn’t sleep at night and had nightmares because of what these people did to her.  We definitely think this constitutes bullying.

If there is anyone out there who thinks these examples are just people having a good time and that it is simple mockery, snark, and lighthearted fun, then you seriously need to get your priorities straight.  Shame on you for saying that this in not bullying!  SHAME ON YOU!  This is not lighthearted fun!  This is sick, twisted, disgusting behavior!  And it needs to be stopped!

It looks like the attack on Eve Thomas continues.  As we’ve said before, the bullies never stop.  They are constantly online (either on GR or Amazon) picking fights, trying to humiliate people, and wreaking havoc wherever they tread.  Pathetic, isn’t it?

In this post, due to popular demand, we’ll be showing you the screenshots we have of the verbal diarrhea spewed by the harassing miscreants known as the Amazon Fora Trolls, whose collective IQ happens to total that of a 12-year old child.  We hope no one loses any brain cells while reading.  In the process, we’ll also be publishing the responses of the normal people on the thread.  It’s not hard to tell which is which.  The bullies’ hypocritical and unjustified pontifications are glaringly obvious.

(Please note, we do have an Amazon troll award for the most psychotic comment, but that comes at the end, so keep reading!)

First the conversation starts out rather smoothly with Gillian, Katy, and Sharon showing their support for Eve and Eve responding:

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Then, the first Amazon troll appears (big surprise):

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So Coaxial thinks she wasn’t bullying anyone or being nasty?  Maybe she forgot about the comment she left threatening Eve with nasty reviews.

But this gets better, because… *trumpets sound* we have another troll who appears on the scene and compares naming and shaming to domestic violence (we know, we know, you don’t have to tell us):

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Then Sharon and Gillian step in to correct Janet’s unfortunate lack of understanding:

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This is when Eve’s rep steps in and takes over her account on GR to let them know an investigation is under way:

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And how do they respond to this?  Well, another Amazon troll moves in, HJ Leonard in this case, who doesn’t seem to understand that it’s Eve’s rep talking and not Eve.  Remember what we said about their collective IQ equaling that of a 12-year old?  This is what we mean:

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We find it funny that HJ doesn’t believe that 87 people contacted Eve to point her to our site.  It’s just proves their denial that they have enemies.  A lot of enemies.  HJ, if you only knew how many blog readers we get a day, you’d be surprised that that number was so low.  But by all means, keep making fools of yourselves.  Keep attacking people online and making enemies.  It’s such a productive way to spend your time, ya know?

And here are some more messages and warnings from Eve’s rep:

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But they don’t seem to get the message, do they?  Because they keep coming.  Like we said, collective IQ of a 12-year old… wait, no, that would be insulting to all 12-year olds.  I take that back.  The collective IQ of a rock.  That’s better.

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As to the “Sidebar Of Shame”, Juno left this comment on our blog.  I just wanted to share it:

These bullies really are total hypocrites!!! The crap they have come out with over the last few days is laughable! If they could only see themselves the way we see them!!! It goes something like this:

BULLY – “STGRB is a terrible site, they stalk and harasses women!”

NORMAL PERSON – “Really? Where? Show me where STGRB do this? Hey Bully you are the one stalking and harassing women. Do you want to see the proof? See the screen shots above! You bully both authors and readers. You have destroyed many authors careers! YOU are the one dong these things!”

BULLY – “STRGB is mean, they hurt my feelings. BOO-HOO! They made a list of names including my name. They called this list Badly Behaving Goodreaders & Amazon Trolls. Listing peoples names is bullying! That makes STGRB bullies! My feelings are really hurt! Winge-whine!!!”

NORMAL PERSON – “Hey bully stop being such a cry baby! YOU have made a list of authors names on GR and Amazon, you have called your list Badly Behaving Authors. So in your own words that makes YOU a bully. These authors’ only crime was promoting their books, they didn’t bully or hurt anyone. Is it ok for YOU to make lists of peoples names??? But it is not ok for STGRB to make lists???”

BULLY – “A-HHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAA!!!! *GROWL* You support THAT site! You are one of them! You are a woman hater! You are a child molester! I hate you! NOW!!! SEE WHAT YOU HAVE MADE ME SAY??? You have caught me out and now I must destroy you!!! I am going to email all my bully friends and get them on here to attack you!!! I’m going to log into all multiple troll accounts and I’ll attack you with ALL of them!!! I WILL MAKE YOU PAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

NORMAL PERSON – “Bully you are a whining hypocrite! I am going to ignore you from now on because I know exactly what you are up to!!! I rest my case!” :)

Okay, so, moving on.  Eve’s rep steps in again:

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Now… this is the good part, or I should say, one of the good parts.  The next two screenshots are of particular interest to us.  I almost choked when I read Zahara condemning doxxing.  Why?  Keep reading.

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Do you know why Gillian blocked Zahara?  Because we let Gillian know exactly who Zahara (aka Zahara Cerise) is.  You see, they’ve met before.  On Amazon.  Here is Zahara on Amazon revealing her identity to HJ Leonard:

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And guess what Anna Karenina did to Gillian?  She stalked her and dug up personal information about her.  Then she outed it to everyone on Amazon.  But that’s not all.  This gets better, or I should say, worse.  She then threatened Gillian with other, more private information that she had discovered.  We’re not at liberty to tell you what that is or show any screenshots.  If you want to know more, you can ask Gillian.  She has all the proof that Anna/Zahara did this.

Disgusting, isn’t it?

Here are a couple more comments from Eve’s rep to Anna/Zahara:

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Now, we’re getting to the finale.  To the Amazon troll award for the most psychotic comment which goes to Mahala Burlingame!  First Mahala can’t understand why her comments are being removed even after Eve’s rep distinctly told the Amazon trolls that theirs would be.

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And then Mahala leaves this:

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Not just a little freaky, is it?

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Then Mahala says she’s going to report Eve’s rep to GR:

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Then Katy says:

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Then:

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You know, I think Mahala just likes to report people.  Makes her feel special and important.

Finally, Eve’s rep blocks her and that’s the end of it.

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But… the award still goes to Mahala.  So, congratulations, Mahala!  You’ve just won our most psychotic comment award!  Good for you!  You must be so proud.

But really, in all seriousness, we hope that Eve is alright, that the investigation goes well, and that these jerks are held accountable for their actions.  If there’s anything we can do to help, we will.  And if people (and GR) can’t see by now how deranged and dangerous these trolls are, then there is no point in posting this stuff anymore.  It’s just getting ridiculous.

Well, unfortunately, the attack on Eve Thomas continues.  The bully leading this attack is a particularly nasty one who is both a GR bully and an Amazon Fora Troll (see sidebar.)  A site visitor just gave us this screenshot of Coaxial threatening Eve with nasty reviews that she’s going to – wait for it – write and post in one night!

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That’s right.  She’s going to read both of Eve’s books and write reviews on them in one night.  *cough cough*  Uh… right.  Translation: she’s going to ignore the books entirely and write up the meanest, nastiest, most author-bashing and insulting reviews she can think of and post them on Eve’s books.

Well, it seems as though even Coaxial realized that she had gone too far because she deleted her comment shortly after she left it (if you go here, you won’t see it any longer.)  But unfortunately for her, our site visitor had the presence of mind to get the screenshot and send it to us so that we could show people just how vindictive she and all her bully friends are.

So, if any of you ever see a comment like this one that crosses the line, screengrab it and send it to us, because the bullies are very good at covering their tracks.

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An addendum.  It looks as if Coaxial has changed her shelf of Eve’s book from Shitlist to Fuck-You-For-Being-Illiterate:

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And here are the insults and jeers they leveled at her:

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They did this all because she tried to apologize!  And then gave each other cyber hugs, acting as if they were the ones being victimized.  Is it just me, or is this completely psychotic?

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